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association finally breaks its silence. the nra promising to take part in a gun control debate it has scheduled a friday announcement. more on that in a minute. first to the white house and cnn's dan lothian. >> reporter: white house aides say this will be a chance for the president to talk more about the process of setting up this effort which, as you pointed out, will be led by vice president biden. i'm hearing also as part of that effort will involve homeland security, the education department, health and human services and also the justice department will be looking at ways that they can come up with policies to address this issue of gun violence. again, this is the president reacting to some pressure as to what he would do. you know, right after this violent event took place, the president came out and said that he would take action. that his administration in the coming weeks and months would be looking at ways to prevent something like this from happening again. so this is the first visible action that this administration has taken to -- is taking, rather, to meet that demand.
contributions to help make sure this never happens again. unquote. a full million members strong, nra is of course one of the most powerful and hardline organizations in america. when they say that things like meaningful contributions, people take notice. today, the nra's executive vice president wayne lapierre took to the podium and said this. >> the budgets, and you know this, our local police departments are strained, and the resources are severely limited. but their dedication and courage is second to none, and they can be deployed right now. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> the congressman who represents newtown had a very strong reaction to the nra's statement, calling it revolting and tone deaf. i spoke to senator-elect chris murphy just a short time ago. >> senator-elect murphy, i wanted to get your response, your reaction to the nra's -- it wasn't really a press conference, just their statement. >> i was in grace mcdonnell's funeral. when i got out, i was sho
with th president of the nra, david keene, to get his reaction to that newspaper's actions. >>> in los angeles, a gun buyback program we told you about yesterday became the most popular drive-through in the entire city. people lined up for blocks and blocks to hand over their weapons in exchange for grocery gift cards. while there were many people who dropped off just one gun, perhaps something that had been in the family for years, there were many who brought in multiple weapons. the los angeles times reports police took out 22 pistols from the truck of one honda, that got the driver $1,000 in gift cards. the people had reasons beyond money for turning in those weapons. >> different shootings and things have been happening in the country over the last couple of weeks. i was really driven to bring this gun in today. >> to turn in some ammunition and guns that may be stolen from our house and you know someone may do something really bad with them. >> we'll find out later today the total number of weapons turned in, in los angeles. >>> take a look at these live pictures out of syracuse,
a conservative republican who received the nra's highest ratings over four terms in congress. i saw this debate over guns as a powerful symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control. and you know what? in the years after waco and ruby ridge, the symbolism of that debate seemed even more powerful to me. but the symbols of that ideological struggle, they've been shattered by the harvest's own from violent, mind-numbing video games and gruesome hollywood movies that dangerously desensitize those who struggle with mental health challenges. and then add in military-styled weapons and high-capacity magazines to that equation, and tragedy can never be too far behind. you know, there's no easy ideological way forward. if it were only that simple as to blame hollywood or the nra or insufficient funding for mental health, then our task would be completed in no time. but i come to you this morning with a heavy heart and no easy answers. still, i've spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers. while daring to question my own long-held belief on these subje
-capacity magazines. we heard from joe manchin and joe warner, both with a-ratings with the nra. to ruth's point, chris, is there a chance that republicans could help to move them as well? >> well, i think so. i think we have seen that on the fiscal cliff issue. and the feeling here at the capitol, i've put the question to them and said, if gabby giffords, a congresswoman one of your own was almost fatally shot, and congress didn't react on gun control, what has to happen after this new event? this has changed the tenor. i was talking to a democratic leadership aide to made that point and also made the point when you have harry reid, if you remember in 2010, a tough re-election. the nra king just short of stopping him saying he was a friend of the second amendment. you have joe manchin and now mark warner. those are moderate democrats. they help bring republicans on board. maybe we would see movement. >> i want to bring in congressman yarmouth. >> good morning, chris. >> yesterday, you apologized for being silent on the issue for the last six years. what specifically do you think can get done no
there in newtown on friday morning. i'll read it to our viewers from the nra. the nra is made up of four million moms and dads, be sons and daughters, and we were shocked, saddened, and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for a mourning, prayer and full investigation of thes before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure that this never happens. that's the first public statement since the killings here in newtown friday morning. the nra also says it will hold a major news conference this coming friday, december 21st, in washington, d.c. of course, we'll cover that as well. >>> there has been another deadly shooting in colorado. police say four people are dead in a murder-suicide. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. what do you have, lisa? >> wolf, it's a disturbing story of a woman's 911 strategy. it happened in colorado. authorities say as the call for help came in, a dispatcher heard gunshots, a man saying he was going to kill hi
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fear to speak out -- not against the nra -- to speak out against survivalists. to speak out against people that want to buy assault weapon, to speak out against people -- i mean, great. if you really do -- if you believe that james madison wrote the bill of rights so people would have the ability to squeeze off that many rounds and have these extended magazine clips, if that's your america living it, that's your america. god bless you. good luck with that. if you really believe the federal government's coming, you're going to kick down your doors, what are you going to do? are you going to shoot that weapon up at the drone? lots of luck. it's not going to help you. but that's where they're positioning themselves. they don't speak out against the slaughter of 20 young children and doing anything about that because they're afraid they may offend sur vooifrlivivalists an rushing out going to walmart and buying assault weapons. they're not going to stand up to so many of these extreme forces. and mark halperin, it's killing them because, again, you look at the cnn poll. their branding's
for these years. people have been afraid of the leadership of the nra who really have to be characterized as enablers of mass murder and will continue to be so if they oppose reasonable restrictions on gun violence. you know, on friday, the same day as the tragedy that occurred in newtown, a maniac attacked an elementary school in china with a knife. he wounded 22 children but they all lived. they will all come home. the difference here is that the maniac had a gun and 26 people are dead. in china, he had a knife. 22 children were wounded but they're all going to be okay. it is our fault if we continue to let this insanity reign in this country. we know what to do about it. we have death by gun rates 15, 20 times more than any industrialized country. we know why. we have to stop this. >> ezra, there's a new "chicago trib" editorial out today by dick durbin talking about what will it take. what holds us back are political organizations that are well funded and continue to resist reasonable limitations. there is a parallel between the gridlock in washington and the erie silence in congress
slamming the nra calling the group's leader a gun nut and politicians divided along party lines with the thought of more guns in schools. >> i do not believe that those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. >> school safety is a complex issue with no simple no single solution but i believe trained, armed security is one key component among many that can provide the first line of difference as well as the last line of defense. >> reporter: the debate over semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines has raged since the shooting at sandy hook. a gallup poll found 53% agreed increasing police presence in schools would be very effective. a third said somewhat effective, 12% said not effective and 42% said banning the sale of automatic weapons and nor an third, 36% said it would not be effective. feel free to weigh in on my page at rick levanthol over the debate of gun rights and greater restrictions continues. >> heather: rick, thank you. >> gregg: search for justice in the benghazi, libya terror attacks. a scathing report placing blame squarely for
cincinnati newtown, we're hearing from chlt nra. >> and look out below. a landslide takes out a freight train. a camera captures the whole thing. look at that. good morning. welcome to "early start." >> it's nice to have you with us. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. up first, systemic failures at the state department. that is a scathing conclusion of an independent review board investigating the deadly september 11th attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed that day. the panel finding security in benghazi was grossly inadequate to cope with the attack, that washington ignored repeated requests to beef up personnel, and ultimately a lack of transparency, responsiveness and leadership senior levels both this washington and in libya. alise, what do you make of this report. a lot of these findings we've been talking about for a very long time. >> that's right, but also in the last few months, there's been so much politicization of this attack, especially with these talking points and the whole issue of susan rice, ambassador susan rice a
that enjoys wide support in the public, even among nra gun owners. >> it would not have helped in this case, though. we know that these guns in this particular case, in this tragedy, which is what has really, i think, kind of grabbed people's attention finally, if you will, that would not have made a difference. >> and that's the unfortunate reality of having guns in a free society is that we can't stop all violent acts. but there are some pretty easy measures that are agreed upon by many people, such as having background checks. and that, i think, is a starting point. and then beyond that, we can have discussions. that to me is the best way to do this. >> steven barton, thank you for talking with us this morning. we appreciate it. we saw a lot from the mayors against illegal guns. they've really been leveraging off this issue to make their position known and maybe get some traction for their issues. want to get right back to zoraida sambolin. she's been covering the details of the victims, as john's been mentioning all morning, we really wanted to focus on those who lost their lives and no
to slam their proposal. >> the nra, i would say that they were tone deaf, but it's beyond that. they're just deaf. i mean, they have completely ignored, don't understand, don't grasp how deeply wounded this nation was. >> national correspondent susan candiotti joins from us new york. susan, the nra is adamant in its position and here we are talking about it today. so was this their game plan to change the focus of discussioning from gun control to school safety? >> well, good question. but of course, is one exclusive of the other? if you ban these types of weapons, if you restrict the size of magazine clips, for example, does that mean that you couldn't also require an armed officer in every school in the thing is, the nra did not take any questions at all when they made their statement. they left so we're left to wonder. but we did try to sample opinions of what people are thinking. and we talked to, for example, a gun owner in newtown, connecticut, to see what she thought about this. >> i'm very torn at this point. i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra and i'm a g
manchin, a member of the nra, who says everything should be on the table when it comes to gun laws, all schools in newtown will reopen today, except sandy hook he elementary school which remains an active crime scene. students returning and families, trying to get back to a productive routine. of course, the pain is still, still deep. cnn's sandra endohas our report. >> in the wake of tragedy, a step toward normal see, for newtown kids that means going back to school. >> we also are going to be a little bit worried, because we know what we thought was a secure school had this happen to them. >> reporter: but facing fear may be the first step to overcome this tragedy. >> children have to get back to school. if we let the sort of terror in our lives anywhere in this country, we've lost. we have to get kids back to school again. >> classes resuming for 5,400 students in the district, except for those at sandy hook elementary. monday, all schools closed as teachers and administrators trained with experts on how to handle the aftermath. many parents we spoke with agree, kids belong back in s
've seen protests outside the nra offices here in washington. the national rifle association so far largely silent on this, even online. their facebook page, their twitter feed, nothing since the shootings. but there are nra supporters not only gun control advocates on the hill but even long-time nra supporters who are rethinking assault weapons. >> we need to accept the reality that we're not doing enough to protect our citizens. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an a saumt rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> now, the washington post has a new poll out done over the weekend after the shootings. they found that the majority of americans, 54%, say they favor tougher laws. but even more than that, seven out of ten don't want to see a ban on handguns. eun in. >>> tracie potts live on capitol hill this morning. tracie, thank you. >>> this morning, this could be a crucial day in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner will update his fellow republicans on ongoing negotiations with president obama.
television right now, they don't want to come on. they're hiding away, as are members of the nra and all the usual suspects when these terrible things happen. are you detecting, senator, that there is change in mood? are you hoping this is a tipping point? >> yes, i hope so, piers. i had to do a brief segment on "meet the press" yesterday morning. and afterwards, i probably got 20 phone calls at home here in washington. very unusual, people from washington and california calling and saying we want to help with this. it's got to stop. i even had one man who was a member of the nra who said i have an ar-15, and i'm going to get rid of it. i'm a hunter, and i want you to do something about these assault weapons. so i'm going to do my level best to try. i did it once before in 1993. we sat down and we wrote a bill, and that bill passed the senate. chuck schumer introduced it in the house. it passed. it was not amended. it was passed. and it went to the president. president clinton signed it, and it was the law for ten years. and over time, it began to wind down the supply of these weapons. a
that. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we will do is now we'll start looking at facts rather than, you know, emotions. the time for emotions remains with regard to this horrific tragedy, but let's translate into action. and the action depends on facts. why do we have 15 times as much gun homicide as the rest of the world? what can we do about it? what can we learn from other countries that have dealt with some of these issues? why do countries like japan have these extraordinarily low rates of gun home skpooicide and gun ? if we can come up with something sensible -- and frankly, if has to be more far reaching. even the legislation p
the nra to the table in a very sort of high pressure timetable right now? >> reporter: this struck me because when the president was asked about this during questioning, he said that he has faith basically in members of the nra. so making it clear that he's going to be trying to appeal to actual members as mothers and fathers, that he said when you look at the nra, there are a lot of people there who want to be sure that people go through background checks, they want to make sure that kids are safe. he thinks that there is sort of a place where nra members don't want to see military style weapons in the hands of people, a period or might do harm. that was sort of where he was looking and using the bully pulpit. friday, we'll be hearing from the nra for first time. they have been saying no comment. they have remained mum following the shooting in connecticut on friday. but this is just a really a sign now that things are very much heating up here, that we will be hearing from them on friday and that we heard from the president getting specific today, brooke. >> nra releasing a statemen
association in washington. >> shame on the nra! >> reporter: speaking out for a political action committee, the group says the gun rights group is partly to blame for tragedies like newtown. but the executive director of gun owners of america thinks principals and teachers should carry guns to prevent tragedies like newtown. >> there are members of congress that would like to see the school zone gun ban done away with. and i think that's encouraging. >> reporter: pro-gun rights senator joe mansion of west virginia called on the gun industry to come together with congress to work on what he called a reasonable approach to curbing gun violence. he said all options should be on the table. cbs news, new york. >>> there is progress to report on fiscal cliff negotiations. two weeks from today, the painful series of spending cuts and tax increases will automatically go into effect if washington can't come up with a budget deal. late monday, though, we learned congressional republicans and the president are narrowing the gap in their differences. tara mergener is in washington with the latest. goo
the connecticut shootings. in fact, the nra's facebook page was taken down a day after it boasted reaching 1.7 million likes. >> i was watching some of the sunday shows and there was one program where they said they invited 31 pro-gun right senators on the show to be part of the panel discussion and not a single one accepted the invitation. >> that's remarkable to me. >> it is. >> typically, the reaction when something like this happens is well, if there were more guns, then this type of thing wouldn't happen. so for example, if the security guard at the school had a gun, this wouldn't have happened. if the teachers had guns, this wouldn't have happened. so i'm surprised the nra has been so silent. these gun enthusiasenthusiasts, surprised they have been silent. >> i think they know all the pro gun rights that obviously for clear reasons, emotions are raw right now. tempers are high, frustration is high. and so they're laying low. but the thing is, the president made it very clear. some legislation is coming. whether it succeeds or not is a different story. >> senator dianne feinstein intend
association. even after protests outside its offices. the nra has stayed out of the conversation. tatyana anderson for cbs news, yonkers, new york. >>> a short time nra said its members are shocked, saddened and heartbroken. they are expected to say more in a news conference scheduled for friday. >>> you never know who will step up and be a leader in a tough stop. in the middle of all the fear and day kai os on friday, a boy offered comfort to his classmates. >> reporter: last friday began as a normal day for luke san tan and his third grade classmates at sandy hook elementary. but things got scary pretty quickly. >> there were about -- now there is something. and we heard gunshots. >> reporter: on the other side of the building the shooter was beginning his rampage. luke's teacher tried to protect her kids. so you're in the classroom and mrs. mckenzie, is she calm? is she excited? how was she? >> she was crying. >> reporter: mrs. mckenzie was crying? >> yeah. >> reporter: because it must have been pretty scary. >> yeah. but then like our next door teacher said to come to her classroom. >
they ♪ >>> coming up on "news4 at 5:00," >>> the nra has just made its first statement since the tragedy at sandy hook. it says, quote the national rifle association of america is made up of 4 million moms and dads, sons and daughters and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. out respect for the families and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. the organization had been noticeab noticeably quiet including on social media after news of the shooting broke friday. >>> here is warning. the next time you fill up at the pump. police say thieves are using new technology to steal credit card information when you pay through for your gas. authorities say they are putting blue tooth enabled card skim others the pumps. they install them by using standard keys that open up a majority of gas pumps across the country. from there, they use blue tooth
at some of these pro gun rights folks, nra, facebook, crickets have deactivated their facebook site, no tweets. not a lot from them the last couple of days. and we learned according to forbes, we'll have this conversation up next, the bushmaster rifle, a military-style rifle that the shooter used on friday, teachers may have been indirectly giving to this company that makes this rifle. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. >>> we are tracking the growing debate over possible new gun control laws. some
washington, the one place we are not hearing anything about it, zoraida, is from the nra. they've not made a statement sense a written statement on friday. they've suspended their facebook page and twitter feed has remained silent. zoraida? >> emily, i understand you also have new polls to share with us this morning. >> we have three different polls that are really showing a potential spike in public opinion change on this. i want to start with one from cbs news that was taken just over the weekend saying do you think gun control rules should be more strict or less strict? there has been a significant change in this. since more strict, 57% say that now compared to 39% back in april. the amount of people who think the gun control should be less strict has dropped. similar findings from an abc news/"washington post" poll, do you support or oppose stricter gun control laws? take a look at how that number has gone up since august. one more interesting thing, the pugh research center asked people do you think the shootings reflect a larger societal problem in their polls say 47% of americans th
debate, the nra hasn't made any public statement. the country's largest gun rights organization has since taken down its facebook page and went silent on the social media scene. cate caugiran, cbs 5. >> for more on bay area gun buy- back programs and continuing coverage off the school tragedy go to cbssf.com. >>> happening right now, owners of a game stop shop in concord are cleaning up after a car drove into it. cbs 5 reporter elissa harrington is at the clayton valley shopping center with all the details. good morning, elissa. >> reporter: good morning. definitely a brazen burglary here. you can see behind me the gamestop has been boarded up and workers have come in to clean up and try and get things back together so that they can open today. now, what happened is that thieves crashed their car into the building and then stole thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. you're looking at a picture from shortly after that happened around 4 a.m. now, employees say that they were alerted by an alarm when they arrived police were already here. and they found that car into the building. but t
in connecticut as that tragedy renews cries for more gun control. the nra says, quote, it is made up of 4 million moms and dads, sons and daughters and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in newtown. the nra went on to say it would wait for a full investigation before commenting. meantime, in our area -- >> a new proposal to ban the sale of assault weapons. will gun restrictions prevent mass shooting tragedies? this is chris gordon in chantilly. villa report ahead. >>> acts of kindness continue to emerge after the tragedy at sandy hook elementary. nbc's ann curry and others on social media sites are helping to spread the word with the hash tag 26 acts. we will share some of those spontaneous tributes on twitter and on the nbc washington facebook page in our next half hour. >>> we have breaking news at this hour out of montgomery county where police are on the scene of a shooting in aspen hill. it happened just before 4:30 at an apartment complex along connecticut avenue near grand prix road. police tell us the man was shot in the eye. he was
chorus of voices, including some nra members calling for a new assault weapons ban to prevent any more tragedies. just four days since the massacre at sandy hook, signs of movement in the decades-long gun control debate. it began with president obama. >> are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom? >> reporter: by monday morning, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host, came out forcefully against assault weapons. >> it is time for congress to put children before deadly dogmas. it's time for politicians to start focusing more on protecting our schoolyards. than putting together their next fundraiser. >> reporter: then, one of the biggest pro-gun senators. >> as your senator, i'll protect your second amendment rights. >> reporter: joe manchin of west virginia announced he too is changing his mind. >> i don't know of anybody, those hunting with an assault rifle, i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: mark warner of virginia agreed. then the mayors of c
gun violence. the nra is expected to speak out tomorrow in its first news conference since the tragedy. and abc's jake tapper joins us from the white house. with the very latest. you asked the president yesterday in the news conference, where have you been for four years on this issue to eradicate semiautomatic weapons? >> reporter: that's right. then-senator biden had written that ban into law in 1994. but it expired in 2004. the vice president will be meeting with chiefs of police who support reinstating that ban. and the president will be reaching out to lawmakers to try to come up with post-newtown solutions. president obama had promised the citizens of newtown meaningful action. and in a morning press conference, he explained what that meant. an administration focused on preventing future tragedies by focusing on mental health, culture, education, and gun control. >> the fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. the fact that we can't prevent every act of violence doesn't mean we can't steadily reduce the violence and prevent the very worst vi
it done? >> well, they probably don't have the votes today. it will be interesting to see what the nra who is going to be making press announcements tomorrow start to say and whether they start letting some members off the hook on assault weapons bans. i don't know if they will, but i can tell you this. the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like jo
the discussion. >> we have got to sit down. i ask all my friends in the nra and i'm a proud nra member and always have been, we need to sit down and move this dialogue to a reasonable approach to fixing it. everything has to be on the table and i think it will be. >> in the west, a lot of gun show customers have newtown on their minds and they have their own ideas as to how the shootings could have been prevented. here is cnn's casey wian. >> clm byolumbine, virginia tec sikh temple in wisconsin, an oregon shopping mall, even with the mass shootings it has become easier for most americans to carry a gun, own an assault rifle or use high capacity magazines. but in the aftermath of connecticut, voices, most notably from a tearful president obama, are calling for tighter gun control. you won't hear them at a california gun show held the day after the connecticut massacre. >> everybody is in a panic. i've never seen so many people at a gun show. i think they're worried about their second amendment rights. >> reporter: there is sympathy for the victims. >> it is horrible that those children did die. >
security guard on campus and another one nearby could not stop it. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> you didn't have any armed teachers when you grew up, did you? >> i did. i had an armed teacher, not a teacher, an officer and a drug sniffing dog to go around and sniff the lockers. but i never thought about whether they made me feel safe. >> what do you think now in retrospect, do you think it kept your school safe? >> it may have. i grew up in a small town. we never had too many bad things happen. >> the discussions come up after newtown. these are very important discussions people are having about how to keep schools safe. i think the question i would ask, where do you draw the line? if it's teachers that are armed, who is to say parents might not say we want to patrol our kid's school? i don't know the answers to that. it's very complicated. >> it
. and also, west virginia senator joe manchin also a democrat, also a longtime member of the nra, said that he has changed his position after the massacre and now supports gun control legislation. lawmakers are hearing today from more than 20 family members and victims of mass shootings across this country. those people all came together on capitol hill and decided they needed to meet with leaders in congress and leaders in the white house. they are demanding that they seriously address gun violence in america. each person who came had a very emotional story to share and they included a father whose 24-year-old son was killed in arepo aurora, colorado, who shielded his girlfriend who the shooter took so many. a mother gunned down on a chicago bus. a father lost his 15-year-old son during columbine tragedy. and the list went on and on. and the photos kept coming out. their message, about 32 people are killed every single day by guns in this country and that it has got to stop. >> today, there will be 32 more families that know the pain and or that you just heard here today. so we pay a
: the nra doesn't want to peek sooner because it is insensitive. >> steve: joe biden will head up the administration's efforts to come up with something after new ton. time for head lines now. >> gretchen: like something out of the hollywood movie. two inmates using bead sheets to escape from prizon. they tide them together and scurry down to building. this is chicago, everyone. kenneth and judge sev breaks. tide the she'ds to the bars of the cells. guess what they are still on the loose right now. >> gun from the botched fast and furous linked to the death of a mexican beauty queen. maria gamez and four others were killed. house speaker john boehner in a plan b. and the white house is making it clear that it is it a no go for the president. >> i believe it is important to protect as many american taxpayers as we can. our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make a million dollars or less . >> he will not accept a deal that in order to protect some of the wealthiest americans from having taxes go up. shifts it on the sorps and class. >> gretchen: so the house is scheduled t
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